I was just showing up possibilities. Obviously, no one wants to fully implement any of them, because they do more worse than good.
A bit of all can be beneficial though and it is good to know that there are ways to help you, if you e. Quite some people suffer from depression or other mental disorders and can solve two problems at once by taking antidepressants. If it gets serious, sex drive can be turned off, but at a high price.
I have been there myself. It is possible to exert very high levels of mental and behavioural control and, so to speak, brainwash yourself into ignoring sources of arousal as well as decreasing them significantly.
Yes, you can break the constant mental loop of thinking of women. Unfortunately, this takes a lot of constant conscious effort and most of the 'metal control' you can do coincides with a plain physical reduction of testosterone in your body, which is about as disadvantageous as taking low to mid levels of antiandrogens.
Masturbation can be a problem itself to some, but I kind of excluded that one from the sex drive problem. This is a secondary problem that additionally drives you towards sexual thoughts and acts, despite the inherent biological programming that eventually controls you. The latter is the real problem. I have taken all kinds of drugs in my life and beaten addiction. The key problem is plainly instinct. If you compare sex drive to eating, yes, it is somewhat like that.
Lowering testosterone is not an option, at least not to me. My ultimate goal is to maximize mental efficiency opposed to just your wellbeing and testosterone is key to that. I think what everyone really wants is to remove the constant thinking of women and sex and replace it with something useful e. It is about keeping a balance between not losing too much control and not impairing yourself too much. Personally, having gone through the mental control variants, I would rather take some antiandrogens or antipsychotics regularly instead of trying to achieve semi- celibacy: Personally I think it is about time that more people keep reflecting upon their emotions and primitive urges and find solutions to them.
People are evolving mentally as well as culturally. I have 'undefined' my sex drive from my personality, as a mental defense against something somehow way too high. But I can see because of it, how it influences others, and how it is, so to speak, always an entirely involuntary contract. Keep feeding it, devote a considerable portion of your life to it and it will stop hurting you emotionally and give you the illusion of happiness, while its implications are in reality always negative.
The entire world doesn't acknowledge that adult humans have behavioural instincts, although it is extremely obvious. Give a cat electroshocks and it will ignore its instincts eventually. Give a human cultural and moral values, law and oppose him to punishment and he will ignore his instincts eventually. Still only so called urges are recognised and all urges can supposedly be controlled. That's a drastic shift towards an unrealistic ideal, backed up by an invalid theory, and attributing full responsibility and freedom of choice to the individual ignores the problems of those who fall outside of the idealized norm.
Hence no one even bothers to think about functional solutions. People are simply pumped up with some substance voluntarily, in lack of options of course that wrecks them mentally if they cause problems. People with unaccepted political ideas would simply be pumped up with antipsychotics in Russia back in the days, such that they essentially became empty mental shells.
That was just one step before euthanasia. So only those on the outside end of the extreme, really feel that the entire idea doesn't make much sense and start thinking more realistic and pragmatic. Solutions are out there somewhere, more people just need to think about them. I just hope that the advances in neurosciences will eventually remove the morally idealised human behavioural and psychological model and replace it with something more realistic.
Thank you for the information, I am not shy when it comes to a serious and educated debate. However, I am not a firm believer that biology is necessarily destiny, Bruce Lipton in fact proved that we are actually able to change our biological make up by simply changing our thoughts about it.
I can safely say that it has worked wonders for me, for decades I was given the diagnosis of being clinically depressed and was depressed for a long time, some of it was caused by lack of thyroid function and the other simply a chemical imbalance.
But I did not resort to medication, I have a serious issue with drugs thought I will assert that some conditions do need medication and I was able to get out of my depression simply be altering the way I was thinking about myself, my life and everything in it. My assertion here is that perhaps if religion were to stay out of our sex lives and society be not so darn obsessed, perhaps we'd be much better off and we could then focus on far more important things than getting laid.
The problem lies exactly in erroneous beliefs, that testosterone rules our lives. It is a hormone, true that it regulates our sex drive but it also do other things, it determines the level of aggression by regulating the andrenaline when attacked.
The other belief is that sex is a need. My contention is that there are three basic needs or else we die: Air, food and water. Sex is an option and should be treated as such.
Let's be frank, we do not need to reproduce, that's the beauty of being human, we can choose our behavior and any time of the day. I agree that we should start looking for better ways to deal with age old problems instead of simply being ruled by them.
The problem there is that very few are actually aware of what they are thinking and how they are thinking to change it. Then, they go, as you pointed out and seek drastic measures when all that needed to be done was to change the perspective of things.
It is very difficult to be different, I can tell you that but not impossible. I do not think that I personally have paid a price for my celibacy, I have actually gained more than I have lost. Again, it is a matter of perspective, you know? To most of my friends, I'm missing out, to me I am gaining. Perhaps, it was because I went into it with the assumption that I was winning all along. Neither did I brain wash myself into thinking anything. I simply stopped thinking about it as arousing.
I asked myself every time I saw something arousing whether it was arousing per se or I had been told it was indeed arousing. I literally had to examine every aspect of my life and erase every single instance of someone else's opinion that I made my own and viola!
Here I am happier, better adjusted and not struggling with hardly anything anymore. The issue here is that age old question, do we want to learn how? Or do we want a quick fix? There's the rub, isn't it? Then there is the common assertion that is simply instinct, yes and no. Unlike the instinct of fight or flight, we can modify it so that it does not interfere with our lives. Again, this is not about brainwashing ourselves but to simply change our minds about it.
I remember recently someone asked me how was it possible for me to stop having sex with others. But once I stopped and did that work, I realized that I did not need it after all and that I could choose not to, I stopped altogether. I will admit that my case is rare but is it? If we were to examine our lives seriously and see where we have been living according to how others have dictated it, I'm sure most of us would do away with lots of questionable behaviors altogether.